Submitted by Keith Bost (not verified) on 1 September 2008 - 7:25pm.
I have fought this so long and with such commitment and utilized so much information that I can honestly say Forced Annexation is nothing more than modern slavery, and anyone who supports it is a slavemonger and coward. Freedom may - sometimes - require us to face the future with a certain ammout of uncertainty (thus the courage), but it is better to face the future with freedom and uncertainty than with certainty as slaves.
People of NC. find your courage, decide what is worth fighting for, and for God's sake, the futures' sake, for your own sake - FIGHT BACK!!!
Visit my website lexingtontruth.com, join the stopncannexation and Fair annexation coalition (web).
Submitted by Tony Tetterton (not verified) on 19 July 2008 - 7:49am.
The bottom line here folks is that too many people in this state feel that forced annexation is wrong. It is up to those of us who feel that way to actively be involved in electing individuals that will see to it that forced annexation ends.
Submitted by Marie Howell (not verified) on 11 July 2008 - 6:56pm.
SALISBURY ANNEXES THE RIGHT WAY!
Salisbury, Maryland starts with a Core Strategy plan, which regulates and guides development, balancing the protection of the districts’ environment and heritage with the needs of the residents. They do not forcibly annex their neighbors’ land.
In Salisbury, Maryland, one of the states which has learned that they need not use force in order to annex and grow, a petition for annexation is filed with the City. For a major annexation to begin, an annexation agreement is negotiated between the property owner and the governing body of the municipality. There is a fee schedule for annexation requests depending upon the size of the area to be annexed, which is paid to the City at the time that the annexation petition is filed.
Their Annexation Procedures and Principles state that “Annexation is a city building event. . . .It is worth noting that cities and towns do not typically pursue annexation….Instead, cities and towns . . . respond and react to annexation petitions/requests from property owners.”
On the rare occasions when the City does proactively seek to annex property, principled negotiation is used, which includes multi-party discussions and agreements. The City must obtain consent from the owners of not less than 25 % of the assessed value of real property in the area and from 25% of the people who both reside and are registered to vote in the area to be annexed.
Forty-five other states of our United States have similar policies.
Why not North Carolina?
Submitted by Fransioli (not verified) on 7 July 2008 - 8:01pm.
Annexation should never be forced. Coercion makes it immoral. The voluntary way is best.
If you sanction some cities to conquer their neighbors without a vote, what moral leg do you stand on when a state like Virginia decides to annex North Carolina land? Would you let Tar Heels vote on THAT annexation?
Submitted by Larry Wright (not verified) on 6 July 2008 - 10:45pm.
Forced annexation is legal, but it is wrong.
Years ago slavery was legal in the US and North Carolina. Was slavery right? You tell me. Many men of integrity and high moral character did not own slaves because it was wrong even tho it was legal.
I remember when segregation was legal. Was segregation wrong? You tell me. Again, many men of integrity and high moral character did not practice segregation because it was wrong.
Years ago, by law, women were denied the right to vote. Was this right? You tell me.
Years ago, children were allowed to work in cotton mills and other public jobs. My grand father was one of those children. Was this right?
Greedy city officials and NCLM officials don't care what is right or wrong as long as it is legal. Such people (one might call them thieves) should be thrown out of office and replaced with officials of good character.
Laws were changed to remedy the above bad laws. In like manner, the law allowing forced annexation is one of those bad laws that should be changed.
One last point. The NCLM and city officials are fond of bragging that NC cities have high credit ratings because of forced annexation. They conveniently forget to mention that the Local Govenment Commission helps cities to get and keep a good bond rating since they have to approve bond issues by the city.
Submitted by Larry Wright (not verified) on 6 July 2008 - 10:07pm.
Citizens about to be forced into the city against their will usually already have water (well) and sewer services (septic tank) that they have already paid for. The city then wants to run city water and sewer lines to your street so you can pay thousands of dollars for their water and sewer services. Why should all of this money be wasted? There is no good reason for it. City greed is not a good reason. NCLM greed is not a good reason. Who needs two water systems and two sewer systems? Duplication of existing servies is very wasteful of taxpayer money.
Submitted by PoliGuest (not verified) on 6 July 2008 - 11:38am.
I call the present tax system in New Hanover county plain unfair! Why should anyone living in the arbitrarily drawn "city limits" pay double taxes for the ever mentioned "same services?"
I go on to say, that city dwellers are assuming more than their fair share of community/metro responsible.
First and foremost, it's mainly about the money. If it were half the price to live in the city, I'm sure annexation would sail through.
CSNC has come up with the first fair, common sense proposal: Charge the city residents a discounted county property tax rate, then, it would happen that the county property owners would make up the difference with higher county rates for themselves.
Then the county property owners have all the glorious benefits of government by the county, while the city property owners are no longer swindled.
And our forefathers can then rest in peace, according to the anti-annexation group.
City property tax payers should also unite!
Submitted by Guest1234 (not verified) on 8 July 2008 - 6:10pm.
I agree with you Poliguest. I live in Columbus County, not New Hanover, but I live in the city and I pay city taxes and county taxes. I think that's very unfair for us to be double taxed. I think it should be one or the other, but not both.
Submitted by Larry Wright (not verified) on 6 July 2008 - 10:24pm.
"I go on to say, that city dwellers are assuming more than their fair share of community/metro responsible." This is a standard untrue, ineffective, misleading argument by city officials and the NCLM. Which are you? Read my previous comments about this.
To learn how to run a city efficiently, city officials should visit cities in the other 46 states that do not have hostile or forced annexation, and find out how they manage their cities instead of going to the NCLM seminars and studying about the glories of hostile annexation. Their money would be much better spent. The NCLM teaches cities how to cheat by legally stealing from their neighbors, and making them fighting mad.
I gave the mayor of Salisbury a copy of the book "How to Win Friends and Influence People" as it was very clear that they had never read it. I also quoted the "Golder Rule" to them as well as evidently they have never heard of it either.
Submitted by Guest1022 (not verified) on 6 July 2008 - 5:44pm.
The property owners in the city are swindled by their own City Council. The County Commisioners aren't any better. Millions of tax dollars is collected in this county. Where do they go? Maybe all of it isn't used to support and run this county.
Submitted by timwhip (not verified) on 6 July 2008 - 8:34am.
The number of people who have been abused by this poorly written law is shameful. Services promised are often never delivered and citizens are taxed out of their lifelong homes.
Make Government be an organ of the people not the other way around.
Submitted by KEITH FLANARY (not verified) on 5 July 2008 - 8:35pm.
All you need to know about forced annexation can be found at http://www.stopncannexation.com/.
Please visit and learn how to help us in the fight. This is a fight we all need to invest in. We are fighting for our freedom in the right to control our property.
Submitted by Jeff Jones (not verified) on 5 July 2008 - 6:28am.
When I look at this whole issue, I am very much reminded of those who founded our country. Those here lived with forced taxation by the British. This resulted in a fairly famous tea party in Boston followed by the war of independence. What's the difference between those times and these when an external group decides to tax people against their will?
I understand the need for municipalities to raise revenues however forced annexation of people is not the way to go about raising them. It clearly equates to taxation without representation prior to the annexation. It strikes me that if cities are so strapped for funds, maybe they aren't properly managing the funds they have. Why would I want to join an organization that wants to force me to pay into their miss-managed coffers?
Submitted by No to Forced Annexation (not verified) on 5 July 2008 - 1:50am.
The United States is a constitutional representative republic. By definition that means that our form of government is based on several basic principals: citizen owned government, accountability of elected officials, citizen approved public debt, and voluntary association. Forced annexation violates every one of these principals. Moreover, the public hearing that is legally mandated is nothing more than a sham. In fact, a Centrolina Council of Government planner has encouraged elected officials to not attend these hearings, but to let staff conduct the hearings so that the emotional public may be calmed and have their questions answered by experts. Not only does this indicate a predetermined outcome, it is incredibly arrogant and elitist. Additionally, sales tax collected throughout the county is apportioned to the municipalities, and do not city residents also use services provided outside of their city? Traditionally the cities zone at higher residential density than the counties, which results in higher school census and more school classrooms. This inevitably results in higher county property taxes for ALL citizens in the county; municipal and unincorporated taxpayer alike. In this situation, the unincorporated taxpayer is subsidizing the municipal taxpayer. Addressing the issue of taxes, let us not forget that the taxpayers forced into the municipal tax system is being forced to pay taxes on debt they did not approve through a vote, or did not approve through voluntary association, i.e.: the taxpayer voluntarily moved into that taxing district. Finally, what recourse do annexed citizens have if the annexation is not successful? Many mayors tell those people that they can move. Yes, let us allow them to be annexed and then tell the involuntary citizens, er taxpayers, that if they do not like the situation, they can move.
Submitted by Charlie (not verified) on 5 July 2008 - 12:13am.
Annexation per se is not necessarily bad, but Forced Annexation, under Statute 167A is. This statute has evolved over 50+ years from a tool to provide needed water and sewer (mentioned over 24 times in almost every paragraph) to abusive use by municipalities who want to increse their tax base providing nothing needed or wanted in return. In the case of the Pinehurst annexation of Pinewild, water and sewer is provided by Moore County (who will lose $300K of sales tax and Powell Bill revenue.) Pinehurst is providing no needed or wanted services - in fact, most perceive post annexation services as inferior to pre annexation services! Other municipalities have used forced annexation, but have no intention or capability of providing water and sewer services.
...then you obviously DON'T believe in democracy, and would have done much better in pre-revolution France or England before the Magna Carta.
This country has never believed in rule by decree, and for a group of people who YOU never elected to simply declare that you are now one of their "subjects"....well....I now understand why Jefferson was a great backer of the Second Amendment and revolution when needed.
Submitted by PoliGuest (not verified) on 4 July 2008 - 8:08am.
Annexation to the city IS decided by elected representatives, the city council. If there is a problem with the democratic process in this annexation action, then it is the fact that those being annexed live in the county and elect county commissioners, not the city council members who are ultimately voting the action.
But remember that those being annexed have the right to appear before the city council to voice their concerns.
I can see both sides of the issue.
Those living in the county have every right to oppose annexation for all the obvious reasons.
First and foremost, these residents began as county residents, and they are satisfied with county services. No one wants to pay more taxes, well I haven't met anyone who does. City dwellers feel that area residents living just outside the city limits, are not paying their fair share of supporting a city center...a city that most county residents are utilizing as much as those just over the line. With access and benefit comes community responsibility. Yes it's more about community responsibility than services you receive.
Fair annexation of neighboring areas is a complex and difficult decision.
Submitted by Guest78064 (not verified) on 5 July 2008 - 2:20pm.
It really does not take much at all for an "elected official" to lie after taking oath and completely change their policy despite what they ran under. That's just a fact. Most "officials" are pretty dirty and would sell another human being in a heart beat if it meant a bigger check.
Submitted by ken motley (not verified) on 5 July 2008 - 12:11pm.
As citizens outside the city limits we pay our fair shair every time we go into town. when we make a purchase our dollars support the town as well as the share of sales taxes every city gets from the state, and the road use taxes every time we buy gas. If you think county residents dont support the cities watch what happens when we take our dollars elsewhere. forced annexation is extortion at its best, so much for private property rights in this state!!!!!
Submitted by William Wendt (not verified) on 5 July 2008 - 10:20am.
In the comment above, the author indicates that county residents who are under annexation by a city have the right to appear before the Town Council to make their case. Have you ever done that. I and many here in Pinewild have done just that with the Pinehurst Town Council, and I can tell you that it is absolutely a waste of time. The Council has no interest in hearing from us. They are driven by the desire for expansion of the city and the additional revenue that annexation represents. They also listen to the NCLM (North Carolina League of Municipalities) which has strongly supported the current annexation law and actually were on the committe that originally wrote it back in the 1950's. IT IS TIME FOR A CHANGE, and that is exactly what we are now fighting for in the NC Legislature. William Wendt
Submitted by Guest_27539 (not verified) on 5 July 2008 - 6:45am.
I too see both sides of the argument. I do feel for the cities in terms of resources and budgeting. They have a 'business' to run and their income is dependent on the tax base. They do provide city services to those outside the city, but that is their prerogative. What's not their prerogative is then deciding to annex areas w/o giving those people a choice.
Yes, it is elected officials that decide whether or not an annexation should occur, but here's the big problem - those elected officials don't represent the people being annexed. Being able to speak at a public forum is nice, but it's not the same as having a vote.
Submitted by stopncannexation (not verified) on 5 July 2008 - 12:57am.
most of the involuntary annexation taking place in north carolina is by small "paper" towns, that provide no services whatsoever to their residents.
marvin, nc is a perfect example. the town council was recorded on audio tape at a "retreat" talking about how they could raise money to build a new town hall and give themselves retirement benefits AND a new car for the town employees to use, and they came to the conclusion that they should annex a wealthy development nearby. they even put the money they THOUGHT they would get from the new taxes into this years budget.
NC's involuntary annexation laws are so lenient that it allows criminal action by small towns across the state with no repercussions.
Submitted by Larry Wright (not verified) on 4 July 2008 - 11:01pm.
When I remarked to the Salsbury City Council that forced annexation was "Taxation Without Representation", they told me that we were represented in the legislature. This is simply not true as regards annexation. The 1959 legislature delegated annexation issue to the city officials. Therefore the legislature does not represent us as regards annexation. The City council CERTAINLY does NOT represent us as we could not vote in their elections. The County Commissioners do not represent us as they can not stop a forced annexation. So it really is true that we are not represented, and forced annexation leads to "Taxation Without Representation". This is why our ancestors rebelled, fought King George III and won our independence.
On the national level we elect our Senators and Congressmen BEFORE they make laws that apply to us. On the state level we elect our Senators and Representatives BEFORE they make laws that apply to us. On the county level, we elect our county commissioners BEFORE they make laws that apply to us. On the city level, They make laws that they apply to us, and we have never elected them. This is flat out wrong. Apparantly the NCLM wrote the 1959 annexation law and completely stacked the deck against us.
Only four states, Idaho, Tennessee, and Kansas and North Carolina have such backward, antiquated and oppressive forced annexation laws. We aught to join the other 46 states and do it a much better way.
Submitted by Larry Wright (not verified) on 4 July 2008 - 10:44pm.
Some city council members are fond of saying that since we live outside the city that we “owe” you money. Well, get out your calculators and tell us how much you think we owe. I’ll give you my figures. From your annexation report, the average amount of tax a year for a house would be $890 if we were in the city. Since we are not in the city, we will reduce that amount by the cost from your annexation report for fire and police protection which is $338 and $305 respectively. That leaves $247.
I would estimate that my wife and I spend about 2 hours a week driving on city streets, and about ½ hour a week using city sewer facilities or drinking city supplied water. We also breathe city air, but so far you have not found a way to tax that. So we spend about 1.5% of our time in the city using your infrastructure. One and a half percent of $247 is $3.72, but do we really owe you that amount? Don’t forget your share of our sales tax dollars as well as the Powell funds, other state funds you receive and possibly even federal funds on occasion. Once those funds are considered, you may actually owe us money.
These figures come from the annexation report the City of Salisbury prepared as they tried (and failed)to annex 1700 of us.
Figure it out. Nearby residents don't owe the city one red cent. These lies come straight from the NCLM.
Submitted by SNCA (not verified) on 4 July 2008 - 10:02pm.
Since I have met MANY people who are city residents (and city officials)who also think that forced annexation is wrong, for one person to post to a forum thread claiming to speak for the city residents immediately puts anything that person has to say, and their motives, into question.
It is the City Lobbyists who have promoted that defense of forced annexation, and after one does a bit of research, this claim is found to be shallow and poorly founded illogic.
All of the citizens in a metropolitan statistical area are a boon to the municipalities inside that area. The businesses in the city do not want these unincorporated residents to withdraw their dollars from their daily sales. Some of these businesses are OWNED by non-city residents.
The cities are the biggest recipients of State and Federal largess that is funded by people who don't live in these cities.
When there is more than one city in an MSA which one "deserves" to extract more money from these taxpayers by force more than the other?
Why do the cities spend time and money trying to attract nonresidents to their fair city? Why are people who live 50 miles away a benefit and then persons living 5 miles away are suddenly freeloaders?
Studies have been done that show that the relationship between City and unincorporated Suburb is at worse a wash, and more frequently a boon to the cities. Often the benefit is lost when the property owners are annexed.
Many Legislators in 1959 spoke out against the idea being enacted because the concept violates the American principles that this country was founded on.
Check the StopNCAnnexation website Resource page for these studies and more that rebuts the shallow 'talking points' of the City Lobbyists. The NCLM collects higher dues based on numbers of people hooked up to government water and sewer. Kind of makes their defense of the practice suspect, doesn't it?
...confused you? I don't care if the city council was elected, they weren't elected by the people whom they are attempting to take over.
Love the speech about a nebulous "community responsibility." Unfortunately, a large portion of the existing city feels no community responsibility at all. They don't even comprehend self-responsibility, and can't manage their own lives. So others should be annexed to help pick up the tab for druggies, drunks, and career criminals?
I think not.
City residents should receive a discounted county tax bill to make up for those services provided by the city.
County residents should be left alone. Every attempt at annexation should require a referendum for the people in the annexed area.
The simple reason that annexation is FORCED is because it is a crappy deal. Make it worthwhile, and you won't have to force it - they'll join, willingly.
forceed annexation
I have fought this so long and with such commitment and utilized so much information that I can honestly say Forced Annexation is nothing more than modern slavery, and anyone who supports it is a slavemonger and coward. Freedom may - sometimes - require us to face the future with a certain ammout of uncertainty (thus the courage), but it is better to face the future with freedom and uncertainty than with certainty as slaves.
People of NC. find your courage, decide what is worth fighting for, and for God's sake, the futures' sake, for your own sake - FIGHT BACK!!!
Visit my website lexingtontruth.com, join the stopncannexation and Fair annexation coalition (web).
Politicians
The bottom line here folks is that too many people in this state feel that forced annexation is wrong. It is up to those of us who feel that way to actively be involved in electing individuals that will see to it that forced annexation ends.
other ways to annex
SALISBURY ANNEXES THE RIGHT WAY!
Salisbury, Maryland starts with a Core Strategy plan, which regulates and guides development, balancing the protection of the districts’ environment and heritage with the needs of the residents. They do not forcibly annex their neighbors’ land.
In Salisbury, Maryland, one of the states which has learned that they need not use force in order to annex and grow, a petition for annexation is filed with the City. For a major annexation to begin, an annexation agreement is negotiated between the property owner and the governing body of the municipality. There is a fee schedule for annexation requests depending upon the size of the area to be annexed, which is paid to the City at the time that the annexation petition is filed.
Their Annexation Procedures and Principles state that “Annexation is a city building event. . . .It is worth noting that cities and towns do not typically pursue annexation….Instead, cities and towns . . . respond and react to annexation petitions/requests from property owners.”
On the rare occasions when the City does proactively seek to annex property, principled negotiation is used, which includes multi-party discussions and agreements. The City must obtain consent from the owners of not less than 25 % of the assessed value of real property in the area and from 25% of the people who both reside and are registered to vote in the area to be annexed.
Forty-five other states of our United States have similar policies.
Why not North Carolina?
Annexation should never be
Annexation should never be forced. Coercion makes it immoral. The voluntary way is best.
If you sanction some cities to conquer their neighbors without a vote, what moral leg do you stand on when a state like Virginia decides to annex North Carolina land? Would you let Tar Heels vote on THAT annexation?
Live free or die
I will not pay taxes forced on me for services I do not want or need.
Just shoot me and be done with it.
Legal but Wrong and un-American
Forced annexation is legal, but it is wrong.
Years ago slavery was legal in the US and North Carolina. Was slavery right? You tell me. Many men of integrity and high moral character did not own slaves because it was wrong even tho it was legal.
I remember when segregation was legal. Was segregation wrong? You tell me. Again, many men of integrity and high moral character did not practice segregation because it was wrong.
Years ago, by law, women were denied the right to vote. Was this right? You tell me.
Years ago, children were allowed to work in cotton mills and other public jobs. My grand father was one of those children. Was this right?
Greedy city officials and NCLM officials don't care what is right or wrong as long as it is legal. Such people (one might call them thieves) should be thrown out of office and replaced with officials of good character.
Laws were changed to remedy the above bad laws. In like manner, the law allowing forced annexation is one of those bad laws that should be changed.
One last point. The NCLM and city officials are fond of bragging that NC cities have high credit ratings because of forced annexation. They conveniently forget to mention that the Local Govenment Commission helps cities to get and keep a good bond rating since they have to approve bond issues by the city.
Don't believe the Lies from the League.
Larry Wright
Rowan County
Hostile Annexation is Wasteful
Citizens about to be forced into the city against their will usually already have water (well) and sewer services (septic tank) that they have already paid for. The city then wants to run city water and sewer lines to your street so you can pay thousands of dollars for their water and sewer services. Why should all of this money be wasted? There is no good reason for it. City greed is not a good reason. NCLM greed is not a good reason. Who needs two water systems and two sewer systems? Duplication of existing servies is very wasteful of taxpayer money.
Larry Wright
Rowan County
Unfair to Double Taxpayers!
I call the present tax system in New Hanover county plain unfair! Why should anyone living in the arbitrarily drawn "city limits" pay double taxes for the ever mentioned "same services?"
I go on to say, that city dwellers are assuming more than their fair share of community/metro responsible.
First and foremost, it's mainly about the money. If it were half the price to live in the city, I'm sure annexation would sail through.
CSNC has come up with the first fair, common sense proposal: Charge the city residents a discounted county property tax rate, then, it would happen that the county property owners would make up the difference with higher county rates for themselves.
Then the county property owners have all the glorious benefits of government by the county, while the city property owners are no longer swindled.
And our forefathers can then rest in peace, according to the anti-annexation group.
City property tax payers should also unite!
unfair double taxes
I agree with you Poliguest. I live in Columbus County, not New Hanover, but I live in the city and I pay city taxes and county taxes. I think that's very unfair for us to be double taxed. I think it should be one or the other, but not both.
Suggestion to City Officials
"I go on to say, that city dwellers are assuming more than their fair share of community/metro responsible." This is a standard untrue, ineffective, misleading argument by city officials and the NCLM. Which are you? Read my previous comments about this.
To learn how to run a city efficiently, city officials should visit cities in the other 46 states that do not have hostile or forced annexation, and find out how they manage their cities instead of going to the NCLM seminars and studying about the glories of hostile annexation. Their money would be much better spent. The NCLM teaches cities how to cheat by legally stealing from their neighbors, and making them fighting mad.
I gave the mayor of Salisbury a copy of the book "How to Win Friends and Influence People" as it was very clear that they had never read it. I also quoted the "Golder Rule" to them as well as evidently they have never heard of it either.
Swindled
The property owners in the city are swindled by their own City Council. The County Commisioners aren't any better. Millions of tax dollars is collected in this county. Where do they go? Maybe all of it isn't used to support and run this county.
Abused annexation law
The number of people who have been abused by this poorly written law is shameful. Services promised are often never delivered and citizens are taxed out of their lifelong homes.
Make Government be an organ of the people not the other way around.
All you need to know about
All you need to know about forced annexation can be found at http://www.stopncannexation.com/.
Please visit and learn how to help us in the fight. This is a fight we all need to invest in. We are fighting for our freedom in the right to control our property.
Boston Tea Party
When I look at this whole issue, I am very much reminded of those who founded our country. Those here lived with forced taxation by the British. This resulted in a fairly famous tea party in Boston followed by the war of independence. What's the difference between those times and these when an external group decides to tax people against their will?
I understand the need for municipalities to raise revenues however forced annexation of people is not the way to go about raising them. It clearly equates to taxation without representation prior to the annexation. It strikes me that if cities are so strapped for funds, maybe they aren't properly managing the funds they have. Why would I want to join an organization that wants to force me to pay into their miss-managed coffers?
both sides of forced annexation?
The United States is a constitutional representative republic. By definition that means that our form of government is based on several basic principals: citizen owned government, accountability of elected officials, citizen approved public debt, and voluntary association. Forced annexation violates every one of these principals. Moreover, the public hearing that is legally mandated is nothing more than a sham. In fact, a Centrolina Council of Government planner has encouraged elected officials to not attend these hearings, but to let staff conduct the hearings so that the emotional public may be calmed and have their questions answered by experts. Not only does this indicate a predetermined outcome, it is incredibly arrogant and elitist. Additionally, sales tax collected throughout the county is apportioned to the municipalities, and do not city residents also use services provided outside of their city? Traditionally the cities zone at higher residential density than the counties, which results in higher school census and more school classrooms. This inevitably results in higher county property taxes for ALL citizens in the county; municipal and unincorporated taxpayer alike. In this situation, the unincorporated taxpayer is subsidizing the municipal taxpayer. Addressing the issue of taxes, let us not forget that the taxpayers forced into the municipal tax system is being forced to pay taxes on debt they did not approve through a vote, or did not approve through voluntary association, i.e.: the taxpayer voluntarily moved into that taxing district. Finally, what recourse do annexed citizens have if the annexation is not successful? Many mayors tell those people that they can move. Yes, let us allow them to be annexed and then tell the involuntary citizens, er taxpayers, that if they do not like the situation, they can move.
No Forced Annexation
Annexation per se is not necessarily bad, but Forced Annexation, under Statute 167A is. This statute has evolved over 50+ years from a tool to provide needed water and sewer (mentioned over 24 times in almost every paragraph) to abusive use by municipalities who want to increse their tax base providing nothing needed or wanted in return. In the case of the Pinehurst annexation of Pinewild, water and sewer is provided by Moore County (who will lose $300K of sales tax and Powell Bill revenue.) Pinehurst is providing no needed or wanted services - in fact, most perceive post annexation services as inferior to pre annexation services! Other municipalities have used forced annexation, but have no intention or capability of providing water and sewer services.
If you believe in forced annexation....
...then you obviously DON'T believe in democracy, and would have done much better in pre-revolution France or England before the Magna Carta.
This country has never believed in rule by decree, and for a group of people who YOU never elected to simply declare that you are now one of their "subjects"....well....I now understand why Jefferson was a great backer of the Second Amendment and revolution when needed.
Annexation Decided by Elected Officials
Annexation to the city IS decided by elected representatives, the city council. If there is a problem with the democratic process in this annexation action, then it is the fact that those being annexed live in the county and elect county commissioners, not the city council members who are ultimately voting the action.
But remember that those being annexed have the right to appear before the city council to voice their concerns.
I can see both sides of the issue.
Those living in the county have every right to oppose annexation for all the obvious reasons.
First and foremost, these residents began as county residents, and they are satisfied with county services. No one wants to pay more taxes, well I haven't met anyone who does. City dwellers feel that area residents living just outside the city limits, are not paying their fair share of supporting a city center...a city that most county residents are utilizing as much as those just over the line. With access and benefit comes community responsibility. Yes it's more about community responsibility than services you receive.
Fair annexation of neighboring areas is a complex and difficult decision.
it does not take much...
It really does not take much at all for an "elected official" to lie after taking oath and completely change their policy despite what they ran under. That's just a fact. Most "officials" are pretty dirty and would sell another human being in a heart beat if it meant a bigger check.
annexation
As citizens outside the city limits we pay our fair shair every time we go into town. when we make a purchase our dollars support the town as well as the share of sales taxes every city gets from the state, and the road use taxes every time we buy gas. If you think county residents dont support the cities watch what happens when we take our dollars elsewhere. forced annexation is extortion at its best, so much for private property rights in this state!!!!!
Appearing before Town Council members
In the comment above, the author indicates that county residents who are under annexation by a city have the right to appear before the Town Council to make their case. Have you ever done that. I and many here in Pinewild have done just that with the Pinehurst Town Council, and I can tell you that it is absolutely a waste of time. The Council has no interest in hearing from us. They are driven by the desire for expansion of the city and the additional revenue that annexation represents. They also listen to the NCLM (North Carolina League of Municipalities) which has strongly supported the current annexation law and actually were on the committe that originally wrote it back in the 1950's. IT IS TIME FOR A CHANGE, and that is exactly what we are now fighting for in the NC Legislature. William Wendt
Doesn't hold water
I too see both sides of the argument. I do feel for the cities in terms of resources and budgeting. They have a 'business' to run and their income is dependent on the tax base. They do provide city services to those outside the city, but that is their prerogative. What's not their prerogative is then deciding to annex areas w/o giving those people a choice.
Yes, it is elected officials that decide whether or not an annexation should occur, but here's the big problem - those elected officials don't represent the people being annexed. Being able to speak at a public forum is nice, but it's not the same as having a vote.
But.....
But annexation needs be acceptable to all involved, not just one group against another's wishes.
one problem
most of the involuntary annexation taking place in north carolina is by small "paper" towns, that provide no services whatsoever to their residents.
marvin, nc is a perfect example. the town council was recorded on audio tape at a "retreat" talking about how they could raise money to build a new town hall and give themselves retirement benefits AND a new car for the town employees to use, and they came to the conclusion that they should annex a wealthy development nearby. they even put the money they THOUGHT they would get from the new taxes into this years budget.
NC's involuntary annexation laws are so lenient that it allows criminal action by small towns across the state with no repercussions.
No one Represent us Targets of Forced Annexation
When I remarked to the Salsbury City Council that forced annexation was "Taxation Without Representation", they told me that we were represented in the legislature. This is simply not true as regards annexation. The 1959 legislature delegated annexation issue to the city officials. Therefore the legislature does not represent us as regards annexation. The City council CERTAINLY does NOT represent us as we could not vote in their elections. The County Commissioners do not represent us as they can not stop a forced annexation. So it really is true that we are not represented, and forced annexation leads to "Taxation Without Representation". This is why our ancestors rebelled, fought King George III and won our independence.
On the national level we elect our Senators and Congressmen BEFORE they make laws that apply to us. On the state level we elect our Senators and Representatives BEFORE they make laws that apply to us. On the county level, we elect our county commissioners BEFORE they make laws that apply to us. On the city level, They make laws that they apply to us, and we have never elected them. This is flat out wrong. Apparantly the NCLM wrote the 1959 annexation law and completely stacked the deck against us.
Only four states, Idaho, Tennessee, and Kansas and North Carolina have such backward, antiquated and oppressive forced annexation laws. We aught to join the other 46 states and do it a much better way.
Larry Wright
Rowan County
How much do we owe the City?
Some city council members are fond of saying that since we live outside the city that we “owe” you money. Well, get out your calculators and tell us how much you think we owe. I’ll give you my figures. From your annexation report, the average amount of tax a year for a house would be $890 if we were in the city. Since we are not in the city, we will reduce that amount by the cost from your annexation report for fire and police protection which is $338 and $305 respectively. That leaves $247.
I would estimate that my wife and I spend about 2 hours a week driving on city streets, and about ½ hour a week using city sewer facilities or drinking city supplied water. We also breathe city air, but so far you have not found a way to tax that. So we spend about 1.5% of our time in the city using your infrastructure. One and a half percent of $247 is $3.72, but do we really owe you that amount? Don’t forget your share of our sales tax dollars as well as the Powell funds, other state funds you receive and possibly even federal funds on occasion. Once those funds are considered, you may actually owe us money.
These figures come from the annexation report the City of Salisbury prepared as they tried (and failed)to annex 1700 of us.
Figure it out. Nearby residents don't owe the city one red cent. These lies come straight from the NCLM.
Larry Wright
Rowan County
Who are the beneficiaries of the City/Suburban relationship?
Since I have met MANY people who are city residents (and city officials)who also think that forced annexation is wrong, for one person to post to a forum thread claiming to speak for the city residents immediately puts anything that person has to say, and their motives, into question.
It is the City Lobbyists who have promoted that defense of forced annexation, and after one does a bit of research, this claim is found to be shallow and poorly founded illogic.
All of the citizens in a metropolitan statistical area are a boon to the municipalities inside that area. The businesses in the city do not want these unincorporated residents to withdraw their dollars from their daily sales. Some of these businesses are OWNED by non-city residents.
The cities are the biggest recipients of State and Federal largess that is funded by people who don't live in these cities.
When there is more than one city in an MSA which one "deserves" to extract more money from these taxpayers by force more than the other?
Why do the cities spend time and money trying to attract nonresidents to their fair city? Why are people who live 50 miles away a benefit and then persons living 5 miles away are suddenly freeloaders?
Studies have been done that show that the relationship between City and unincorporated Suburb is at worse a wash, and more frequently a boon to the cities. Often the benefit is lost when the property owners are annexed.
Many Legislators in 1959 spoke out against the idea being enacted because the concept violates the American principles that this country was founded on.
Check the StopNCAnnexation website Resource page for these studies and more that rebuts the shallow 'talking points' of the City Lobbyists. The NCLM collects higher dues based on numbers of people hooked up to government water and sewer. Kind of makes their defense of the practice suspect, doesn't it?
What part of "who YOU never elected"....
...confused you? I don't care if the city council was elected, they weren't elected by the people whom they are attempting to take over.
Love the speech about a nebulous "community responsibility." Unfortunately, a large portion of the existing city feels no community responsibility at all. They don't even comprehend self-responsibility, and can't manage their own lives. So others should be annexed to help pick up the tab for druggies, drunks, and career criminals?
I think not.
City residents should receive a discounted county tax bill to make up for those services provided by the city.
County residents should be left alone. Every attempt at annexation should require a referendum for the people in the annexed area.
The simple reason that annexation is FORCED is because it is a crappy deal. Make it worthwhile, and you won't have to force it - they'll join, willingly.